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Review and Comment on the News 3/20/07
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posted by: surrogate (reply) post date: 03.20.07 (11:12 am) I'm curious... when did Richard Clark become a lousy guy exactly? Obviously he's a big liar now, since you imply it, but when did it happen? And Valerie Plame's a liar too... Uh huh. You do kow that Valerie Plame was told not to tell who the junior officer was, right? I know, I know, that doesn't matter. It doesn't quite fit with your preconceived notions so you'll ignore that... Uh huh. And Richard Clarke had an axe to grind too... You didn't mention Shinseki. Come ON! he was a liar too! He said we'd need more poeple to get the job done in Iraq and your hero had the balls to ignore him, cuz he's so honest and bright! A guy from my home town (who's now on the damn city counsel, of all things - and is a very conservative Republican, by the way) went through training and served with Valerie Plame and has kept up with her carreer from the get-go, AND insists she's been covert forever and was a star within her field... I'll make sure to tell him you know better. After all, like Clarke, he's obviously turned along the way, right? Oh, by the way, I'd like clarification... Does global warming not exist? -or is it that there's nothing we can do about it if it does? -or is it just a natural climate change that occurs every now and again? You've claimed all these things at one time or another. I wondered which is true and where you got your scientific information to back up your beliefs? The National Review? The Chicago Times? Rush Limbaugh? Or is it other places that end up sourcing from these and like folks? posted by: lorischuster (reply) post date: 03.20.07 (3:54 pm) I'm doing a News fast. Not sure how long it will last but I was getting to the point I was several years ago when I had fantasies of harming Dan Rather. I just can't take it anymore...the lunacy just gives me a headache. Life is much better when I'm living it fat, dumb and happy. :) Just wanted to say hello. posted by: ottomanprang (reply) post date: 03.20.07 (8:00 pm) "A guy from my home town (who's now on the damn city counsel, of all things - and is a very conservative Republican, by the way) went through training and served with Valerie Plame and has kept up with her carreer from the get-go, AND insists she's been covert forever and was a star within her field... I'll make sure to tell him you know better." Let's see. You've cured evil businessmen of their wicked capitalist ways, everyone of which (every single one mind you), had a Ronald Reagan photo in his office, you have a friend who worked with Valerie Plame, let me guess, you've worked with Gore on global warming research as well. It was known at the time that Clarke said one thing regarding Iraq in his book and another under testimony. It appears (among many) and I for one would not be surprised, that Val is doing roughly the same thing. Victoria Toensing (the woman who wrote the Intelligence Identity Protection act) said Valerie Plame WAS NOT a covert operative under the law that she (Victoria Toensing) had a hand in crafting, therefore no laws were broken. And no, unlike you, I don't claim to know Mrs. Toensing. Your friend may be right, but many don't agree with him. Oh, and by the way I do believe the Earth is warming up, but if you read the links with any of my posts you would know that I believe the Sun, (you know, that giant fiery ball 93 million miles away that is hundreds upon thousands of times larger than the earth and also verrrry hot) has more to do with it than your car. And we can do everything you and AL want regarding Global Warming and guess what? The Climate will still change...the climate ahs undergone far more drastic climate change than anything that's occuring today...if you bothered to follow any of the links to the stories, you would know where I got my research, James Hogan's site, Scientific American, National Geographic, all of which are part of the vast right wing conspiracy.... Lori: Hi! posted by: surrogate (reply) post date: 03.22.07 (4:44 am) Reply to: ottomanprang Nope. Never siad I cured a single guy. Said the bad guys I dealt with STAYED bad. And being capitalists had nothing to do with it. Obviously you didn't read what I wrote about it. I also don't know the the guy from my hometown, and didn't say I did. I said I'd be sure to tell him that YOU said he was a liar. Toensig? She has slready admitted she had no idea whether Valerie Plame was covert, you idiot. She said, based on what she'd heard from some news reports and her FRIEND Robert Novak, she didn't think Valerie Plame, whom Toensig has also said she didn't know, would not have been considered covert according to her understanding of the rules she helped craft IF what she'd heard was accurate. It wasn't. Valerie Plame's BOSS, has said very succinctly, that she was. Utter BS argument, and I suspect you know it, or you would if you'd looked into it for fifteen seconds. So, are you telling me that National Geographic and Scientific American as organizations think there's no such thing as MAN-MADE Global Warming and that there's nothing that can be done? Are you kidding me? Or, as is the case, that they quote dissenters and sometimes print articles ffrom such folks when making their points? Oh, what's the point, as is the problem with all cement minded people everywhere, (Islamic Fundementalists, Christian fundementalists, Racist goofballs, etc.) you believe what you believe, and that's that. and spend your time proving the earth is flat. The Church, by the way, has some old documentation - bout a thousand years old, that may help you further. Guess what? The earth? It's round. That big firey ball? You're right, it's way hotter than the earth, and in fact, the earth in is NO danger of disappearing anytime soon. WE are. And, of course, there ARE climate changes we have no control over. But see, dufuss, they don't happen this fast and never have - at least in the last 650,000 years. You might enjoy the National Geographic's pic series on the effects of man-made global warming. posted by: ottomanprang (reply) post date: 03.22.07 (12:52 pm) Stupid, Victoria Toensing in her own words: When the act was passed, Congress had no intention of prosecuting a reporter who wanted to expose wrongdoing and, in the process, once or twice published the name of a covert agent. Novak is safe from indictment. But Congress also did not intend for government employees to be vulnerable to prosecution for an unintentional or careless spilling of the beans about an undercover identity. A dauntingly high standard was therefore required for the prosecutor to charge the leaker. FLASH!! IMPORTANT:>>At the threshold, the agent must truly be covert. Her status as undercover must be classified, and she must have been assigned to duty outside the United States currently or in the past five years. This requirement does not mean jetting to Berlin or Taipei for a week's work. It means permanent assignment in a foreign country. Since Plame had been living in Washington for some time when the July 2003 column was published, and was working at a desk job in Langley (a no-no for a person with a need for cover), THERE IS SERIOUS LEGAL QUESTION AS TO WHETHER SHE QUALIFIES AS COVERT.<< Idiot: Doesn't sound to me like someone who has "no idea." Read the Scientific American article I reference and see if the first couple of paragraphs don't describe to a "T" what is happening today regarding climate change, only it was 13,000 years ago. If I'm not mistaken there weren't any republicans around to destroy everything....moron. |